Post by Faustus on Apr 15, 2014 2:40:43 GMT
After an extended period of trying to work it out with my opponent and explain both sides of our logic, we yet again cannot reach a concensus. I really don't understand why he'd make a big deal about this, considering it was agreed upon by a judge that he'd recieve non-lethal damage from my attack. Now he is complaining about where I decided to assign that damage. Seems really nitpicky to me. But it falls upon a judge to make the call. Alchemist, you are up again. Be prepared for an equally long read.
shinzagoya (9:05:36 PM): kk
shinzagoya (9:44:21 PM): Just wondering how you hit my chest exactly if I ducked covering my chest
shinzagoya (9:44:30 PM): and giving a smaller target
syncopate (9:47:43 PM): mainly because the spears were released in front of you.
shinzagoya (9:48:00 PM): I was to the side of them when it did go off and moving
shinzagoya (9:48:15 PM): so yes I would have been hit in the left leg but no the chest
shinzagoya (9:48:21 PM): but maybe the arm
syncopate (9:48:27 PM): No, the bullet went off as soon it was a foot in front of you. Not the side.
syncopate (9:48:41 PM): That is where you messed up with the timeline.
shinzagoya (9:48:46 PM): If you read it nwo and I read it much closer now
shinzagoya (9:49:01 PM): I had made the flash bang at the same time I jumped
syncopate (9:50:29 PM): This is all happening before you jumped or did much of anything really, as it clearly says in my post.
shinzagoya (9:50:52 PM): yeah and I made it clear in my post when you were reaching in your pocket is when I made my move
shinzagoya (9:51:34 PM): and the minute you showed the gun meaning pulling it out is when I started to move
shinzagoya (9:51:50 PM): Let me show you real qucikj brb
syncopate (9:52:13 PM): That is not what it said in your post. Your character was doing like 5 things at faster than sound travel with a bullet coming at him from 15 feet away.
syncopate (9:52:44 PM): I think it was safe to assume my crystals got to you quicker than you could jump.
shinzagoya (9:57:32 PM):
In a second, no a fraction of a second, Faustus' hand entered the abyssal black innards of his buttoned
Seeing the man reaching into his jacket pocket for somthing Shin quickly , but slowly lowered his left
hand to the side the orb of light still clearly visible .(first set of action I made to your action )
up suit jacket, and a flash of silver came from within. A revolver, silver and glistening found itself
. As he saw the sliver lining of a barrel being pulled out .
Shin had crushed the orb of light with in his hand before shifting his weight to the right of his body . Before opening his hand letting out a blinding flash of light almost like a flash-bang before side leaping around three to four feet from his original position. (Second course of action when the gun was visible )
aimed right for the angels chest, and with a loud BANG, he pulled the trigger, and let the hammer and gunpowder do its work.
The flash of light would last around one second . As the light went off his head lowered as he lept to avoid the shot hitting his him as he lept . (third course of action already in the air as the shot is fired )
syncopate (9:59:10 PM): Note that faustus' action occured in a fraction of a second. For you to send off a flash of light, duck and move all would have taken at LEAST a second. Not to mention you'd have to be moving at about twice the speed of sound for what you want to achieve to be achieved.
shinzagoya (9:59:35 PM): I ducked in the air
shinzagoya (9:59:39 PM): not before I jumped
shinzagoya (9:59:54 PM): and light travels faster then sound
syncopate (10:00:22 PM): even if this is all happening at once, the action would have had to occur at, at least a second. And your flash isn't what's in question.
syncopate (10:00:40 PM): Your movements are what's in question.
shinzagoya (10:00:42 PM): Then what is the fact i jumped before you fired
syncopate (10:00:53 PM): You couldn't have jumped before I fired.
syncopate (10:01:01 PM): You'd have to be moving at about 3x sound speed
shinzagoya (10:01:04 PM): Yes yes I could If I sawy the gun comingout
shinzagoya (10:01:16 PM): unnless you can take a gun out from yrou jacket
shinzagoya (10:01:24 PM): and aim and fire with in half a second
shinzagoya (10:01:39 PM): which not even the best gunslingers could do
syncopate (10:01:46 PM): He did. I specifically stated that he did.
shinzagoya (10:02:05 PM): Yeah you are taking your gun out at the same time I am already in motion
syncopate (10:02:39 PM): The speed at which this is all occuring still would not put you far enough away to have your chest protected.
syncopate (10:03:03 PM): And my gun motion is happening faster than your jump motion.
shinzagoya (10:03:34 PM): By the time I saw your gun barrled so before you poited I jumped out of the way and made the fash
syncopate (10:03:43 PM): I gave a specific timeframe for the speed at which mine was happening. Just because your character can see something happen, doesn't mean he is just automatically fast enough to escape.
shinzagoya (10:04:05 PM): Okay where in your jacket is your gun
syncopate (10:04:35 PM): It's just there. It is assumed to be close enough inside to allow ease of acces in fraction-of-a-second speed.
syncopate (10:05:42 PM): And you are looking at every aspect other than what is important. Just because you STARTED moving as you saw my character bring out the gun, does not mean you were FAST enough to escape it all. Do you know how fast a fraction of a second is?
shinzagoya (10:05:45 PM): Not really it would have to be holestered then sliding your hand in your suit then wipping hte gun out back out so to the side swing yoru hand forward to a aim position with out firing blindly
syncopate (10:06:00 PM): Did you not even read my sheet?
shinzagoya (10:06:32 PM): Liek I said I couldnt find it and also if you asy your character is a expert gunslinger even the best cant pulll a gun out in fraction of a second
syncopate (10:06:34 PM): My sheet literally explains why none of that stuff you just said would at all deter Faustus. And are you seriously trying to bring a holster into play for a metahuman rp fight? Seriously?
shinzagoya (10:07:11 PM): I am saying fraction of a second to un holester a gun aim it and shot it
shinzagoya (10:07:17 PM): still takes a second
shinzagoya (10:07:26 PM): not a fraction unless you have an aim bot
syncopate (10:07:54 PM): And stop comparing Faustus to human limitations when he is not in any way bound to human understanding or limitations. Your average gunslinger also didn't hop planes three times and kill a self proclaimed God. So I guess Faustus didn't do any of that, either?
shinzagoya (10:08:27 PM): But then you have the thing of pulling the gun out of thin air
syncopate (10:08:36 PM): And yes, a fraction of a second. Based on my description of my attack, and your description of your defense, my attack still supercedes your evasive meneuver.
shinzagoya (10:08:41 PM): in order to o pull it out aim it and shoot it
shinzagoya (10:08:52 PM): three different actions in fraction f a second
shinzagoya (10:09:44 PM): and if your goign to be compared ot a human
syncopate (10:09:48 PM): Like I said, even if you had managed to BEGIN your jump, my bullet is moving at faster-than-sound travel, and explodes before even getting to a point where a bullet could strike you.
shinzagoya (10:10:19 PM): You only aimed where my chest was not where my chest actually was at that point of time
syncopate (10:12:22 PM): So your chest still is fair game. And this is really starting to become nitpicky and vexing me to a point where overlooking major discrepencies and allowing things to slide will be off the table. We already had a judge decide you would take non-lethal damage, so why do you have to be so tedious to argue of where you are hit. As for the bullet being aimed for your chest, and the position of your chest moving. The BULLET was aimed for your chest. The explosion of dozens of magic crystals are indiscriminate, and therte is no way you would have been enough distnce away for your chest to be off the table.
shinzagoya (10:12:58 PM): Ohg and also which brings me how you managed to get from the front door to the vip room faster than light
shinzagoya (10:13:06 PM): and then ush over a table and hode
shinzagoya (10:13:08 PM): hide*
syncopate (10:13:15 PM): Unless you were moving at maybe mach 3, which of course is bs.
syncopate (10:13:21 PM): And he didn't move faster than light.
syncopate (10:13:32 PM): I didn;t even insinuate that he did.
shinzagoya (10:13:36 PM): You kinda did when you shot your bullet
shinzagoya (10:13:49 PM): You by the time yoru post was over was hiding behind a table
shinzagoya (10:13:58 PM): and in the Vip corner
shinzagoya (10:14:07 PM): past a crowd of people on the floor
syncopate (10:14:08 PM): He was hiding behind the table at the start of my post actually.
syncopate (10:14:45 PM): He caused a stir, so instead of your orb hitting him, it him some poor bastard who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
shinzagoya (10:15:06 PM):
would be lost to the angel. In the chaos, he escaped to the upper floor, the VIP(where he felt he should have been from the start).
shinzagoya (10:15:13 PM): Not int he vip floor right
syncopate (10:15:35 PM): What exactly is your complaint here?
syncopate (10:15:40 PM): That your orb didn't hit him?
syncopate (10:16:00 PM): Because I can nip that in a bud right now.
shinzagoya (10:16:01 PM): My complaint is an over look that you hit my chest which was never there for you to hit
shinzagoya (10:16:18 PM): and the chest not being a lethal shot who the hck told you that
shinzagoya (10:16:22 PM): heck*
shinzagoya (10:16:54 PM): I never the orb to hit you in the first place
syncopate (10:17:24 PM): No you are complaining about shit that really has nothing to do with what is going on. My character didn't move faster than light. He shot a bullet at you that was faster than the speed you were moving. I even mentioned your light flash was even felt AS he was escaping to the balcony I believe in my most recent post.
syncopate (10:17:52 PM): He didn't escape your light flash, it just didn't do shit to him.
shinzagoya (10:18:02 PM): No I am also the complaining the fact it took fraction of a second to take out yoru gun which i saw you take it out ai mit and shoot it
syncopate (10:18:23 PM): Yeah? And that all happened in a fraction of a second.
syncopate (10:18:31 PM): I don;t get what is not to understand for you there.
shinzagoya (10:18:43 PM): Fraction of a second used
syncopate (10:18:56 PM): Read my sheet, and your claims will be put to rest.
shinzagoya (10:18:59 PM): Key term less than 3/4 of second
syncopate (10:19:08 PM): mhm.
shinzagoya (10:19:09 PM): to take a gun out and shoot it dead on in the chest
shinzagoya (10:19:21 PM): Hmm from the gun not being in your hand at all
syncopate (10:19:45 PM): Faustus who is elevated beyond human restriction and more than three times the age of any known human currently living?
syncopate (10:19:55 PM): probably not too crazy to assume tat possible, kid.
shinzagoya (10:19:57 PM): Exactly you answered yoru question
shinzagoya (10:20:12 PM): Not human limitations
syncopate (10:20:31 PM): You keep basing his ability to draw, aim, and shoot based on human standards and speed.
syncopate (10:20:41 PM): Those do not apply to Faustus.
shinzagoya (10:20:45 PM): And even if you wernt human it still take at least second to take the gun out aim it and shoot
shinzagoya (10:20:54 PM): itnot 3/4 of a second to do all three
shinzagoya (10:21:41 PM): and just as you arent human nither am I so knocking me down to human dodging standards isnt likely argument for you to make
syncopate (10:21:45 PM): Alright, so let's assume worst case scenario, both are actions are the exact same speed. YOu are moving as the bullet is fired. You still are not moving fast enough for your chest to be far enough away in ANY direction for the WIDE ARCING crystals to not be able to hit it.
shinzagoya (10:22:04 PM): Why do you think I ducked
syncopate (10:22:14 PM): And I am not arguing human dodging standards. I never once quoted a human dodging standard with which to judge you by.
shinzagoya (10:22:19 PM): which would have exposed my arm and leg not my chest or head
syncopate (10:22:26 PM): And ducking doesn't matter when the crystals are going literally everywhere.
shinzagoya (10:22:31 PM): cause I am moving to the side not the front
syncopate (10:23:00 PM): And it went off in FRONT of you. A foot in front to be precise. Your head is actually still very fair game. You are not dodging one linear path object.
syncopate (10:23:16 PM): ou are dodging a firework show of crystals that are going everywhere.
syncopate (10:23:19 PM): *you
shinzagoya (10:23:32 PM): yeah it may have went off in front of me as the bulelt was dodged the after of your lances would have only hit my arm and leg
shinzagoya (10:23:51 PM): I am doding the front direction of the bullet so I am not standing infront of it
shinzagoya (10:24:01 PM): when it goes forward
shinzagoya (10:24:29 PM): giving it were a normal bulelt it would have passed by thoguh giving it as it has a after affect it woudl cuase minimal damage
syncopate (10:24:56 PM): My point is with the speed everything is happening at, there is no way you are more than a few inches to the left or right of the location of the origin explosion, which means your chest is still fair game. As well as your head. I decided I WOULDN'T hit your head so that I could enjoy this fight. So I went for your chest.
shinzagoya (10:25:31 PM): I am at least a foot from the epi center
syncopate (10:25:35 PM): Your character is not moving at double sound speed to have been able to be the required distance away from the origin of the explosion for your chest to be off limits.
shinzagoya (10:25:48 PM): Yeah which is a foot
shinzagoya (10:26:10 PM): cause i am moving horizontially it was never impacted infront
syncopate (10:26:20 PM): even if you are a foot to the left of the bullet, that means you are a foot away and to any one of two directions. A crystal moving diagnoally would still hit your chest
syncopate (10:26:35 PM): Diagnoally from the point of release
shinzagoya (10:26:45 PM): I moved directly sideward
syncopate (10:26:51 PM): You keep thinking all the crystals are headed in ONE direction.
syncopate (10:26:56 PM): They are going everywhere.
shinzagoya (10:27:00 PM): so the lances going sideward would hit
syncopate (10:27:24 PM): They are not moving just front, back, left, right. Everywhere man. What don't you get?
shinzagoya (10:27:30 PM): not diagonally lanes not frontal lances only the side lances
shinzagoya (10:27:46 PM): Explodes lieka firework
syncopate (10:27:55 PM): yeah, so they are going out in every direction.
syncopate (10:28:05 PM): You are a foot away, and a foot to one of two sides
syncopate (10:28:18 PM): That means at least a few of the lances are still capable of hitting your chest
shinzagoya (10:28:42 PM): they may have gone every where but they still scater
shinzagoya (10:29:05 PM): unless it is a pulse in which case every square inch is covered
syncopate (10:29:14 PM): key word. scatter.
shinzagoya (10:29:18 PM): but these are individual lances spreading out
syncopate (10:29:36 PM): out of a presumed 12 lances, only two hit your chest. You evaded a damn good number of them.
shinzagoya (10:29:37 PM): so a foot os scatter and me a foot from it and moving to the side
shinzagoya (10:29:45 PM): it would only hit my shoulder and down
shinzagoya (10:29:49 PM): not my chest
shinzagoya (10:30:17 PM): but for leatalality liek you were aiming for
shinzagoya (10:30:32 PM): the chest expecially the upper chest is for sure kill
syncopate (10:30:52 PM): No. Just no. an inch of penetration would not kill you if it hit your chest just about anywhere.
syncopate (10:31:06 PM): do you know how much shit is in your chest it's have to dig through to kill you?
syncopate (10:31:23 PM): You have a ribcage for one, lungs which are deeper in, and your heart is deeper still.
shinzagoya (10:31:34 PM): Yeah it is 1 ich of skin and then half an inch of ribs
shinzagoya (10:31:38 PM): to get to you
syncopate (10:32:07 PM): an inch of penetration still isn't anything considered lethal.
syncopate (10:32:26 PM): you might have a broken rib or two. But that is still far from lethal.
shinzagoya (10:32:47 PM): But what pisses me off the most is the 3/4 of a second to take the gun out aim and shoot
shinzagoya (10:32:56 PM): which is impossible even if you were super human
syncopate (10:33:00 PM): What pisses me off is your character moving at Mach 2
shinzagoya (10:33:09 PM): I am not moving at mock 2
syncopate (10:33:14 PM): *mach
shinzagoya (10:33:17 PM): I am side steping the bullet
syncopate (10:33:31 PM): A bullet moving faster than sound from 15 feet.
syncopate (10:33:41 PM): you;d HAVE to be moving at around mach 2 to even pull that off.
shinzagoya (10:34:21 PM): From the 15 foot mark my chest would be as wide to you as less then an ich
syncopate (10:34:24 PM): much less move fast enough to get away from a crystal hitting your chest. That and your idea of positioning is super off.
shinzagoya (10:34:25 PM): inch *
syncopate (10:34:36 PM): Your chest... is a huge part of your body.
shinzagoya (10:34:49 PM): yeah not at fifteen feet away
syncopate (10:34:58 PM): and 15 feet for someone with enhanced sight, as per the desription of the Iris of the World, is really nothing.
syncopate (10:35:08 PM): Nothing at all.
shinzagoya (10:35:10 PM): still the biggest but nto that big unless you have magnified vision
syncopate (10:35:42 PM): Are you kidding me? A run of the mill police officer can hit you in the chest from like 20 feet.
shinzagoya (10:36:03 PM): yeah but they have to aim which takes a cupple of seconds
syncopate (10:36:04 PM): Gangsters do driveby's and hit idiots in the chest multiple times from across the damn street.
shinzagoya (10:36:18 PM): not fraction of a second to pull the gun out aim and shoot
shinzagoya (10:36:33 PM): ona moving target
syncopate (10:37:00 PM): Once again. I will state you are being really, really nitpicky because you don't want to take the damage levied against you. I am copy/pasting AGAIN, so that Alchemist can make her call.
shinzagoya (10:37:33 PM): Sure go ahead
shinzagoya (10:40:31 PM): Oh and she messed up the whole analyisis of the fight saying you didnt fire a bullet
shinzagoya (10:40:45 PM): and I ducked before jumping
shinzagoya (10:41:08 PM): " Considering the fact it was not a bullet being fired at Shin "
syncopate (10:41:10 PM): She did actually say I fired a bullet. Her word specifically used was a capsule.
shinzagoya (10:41:37 PM): Considering the fact it was not a bullet being fired at Shin \
syncopate (10:41:40 PM): There you go being nitpicky again. Alchemist has been in the judging game probably before you even stepped in a ring.
syncopate (10:42:07 PM): Faustus fired a capsule that released twelve or so vectors made of magic at and around his opponent.
syncopate (10:42:14 PM): That was another quote.
syncopate (10:42:24 PM): wanna keep your game of broken logic going?
shinzagoya (10:42:29 PM): Yeah vectors which I recall it being bullet fired
syncopate (10:42:37 PM): Vectors refers to the crystals
shinzagoya (10:42:40 PM): bti twelve different vectors
syncopate (10:42:48 PM): the capsule refers to the bullet.
shinzagoya (10:42:51 PM): yeah you said everywhere
shinzagoya (10:42:56 PM): now she gave a number
syncopate (10:43:06 PM): Because in my post I said about a dozen
shinzagoya (10:43:11 PM): so doding twelev vectors at a foot of range
syncopate (10:43:11 PM): a dozen is 12
shinzagoya (10:43:25 PM): Yea h but a dozen doesnt hit everywhere
syncopate (10:43:35 PM): They are capable of going in every direction
shinzagoya (10:43:50 PM): and the scatter affect would not have made 2 of those hit my chest
syncopate (10:43:54 PM): front back left right diagnoal blah blah
syncopate (10:44:01 PM): 2 of 12? seriously dude, just stop.
shinzagoya (10:44:12 PM): TO cover enervy where
shinzagoya (10:44:17 PM): every*
shinzagoya (10:44:27 PM): Hmm fishy if they can course correct
syncopate (10:44:41 PM): Not fishy at all if you would read it within the context of my post.
shinzagoya (10:44:50 PM): Yeah I am rteading it context
syncopate (10:44:57 PM): You are a terrible nitpicker, and your understanding of positioning is absolutely abysmal.
shinzagoya (10:45:03 PM): everywhere so no matter if I had moved to the other side say the left
syncopate (10:45:20 PM): you still woulda' got hit by about 2
shinzagoya (10:45:26 PM): the half a dozen or even more of them would still hafl to cover the left side forward up and right
shinzagoya (10:46:07 PM): oh and not to mention diagonal up and down to the left and right
syncopate (10:46:29 PM): Did I say how many went which directions? 1 coulda went straight, and 4 coulda' went the other four normal directions, while all the rest went diagonal. It was left to me to decide, given it was my attack.
shinzagoya (10:46:40 PM): But you said every where
syncopate (10:46:47 PM): Yes. everywhere.
shinzagoya (10:46:51 PM): so unless they auto corrected to only head my way
shinzagoya (10:46:54 PM): if I jumped
shinzagoya (10:47:03 PM): SO lets count everywhere shall we
syncopate (10:47:16 PM): Lol two just so happened to be going in your direction and hit your chest
syncopate (10:47:30 PM): you are trying to break something down to a science where there is nothing to break down.
shinzagoya (10:47:55 PM): No I am breaking down your def of everywhere
syncopate (10:48:06 PM): The judge said you recieve damage calculation, I dished out my damage as I saw fit. Instead of just dealing with it and pressing on, you wanted to make a federal case over a case that was already closed.
syncopate (10:48:14 PM): You can't break down a definition I never gave.
shinzagoya (10:48:25 PM): Its called appell lol xDD
syncopate (10:48:29 PM): I was purposefully ambiguous in my post because people like you do things like this.
shinzagoya (10:49:02 PM): No people liek me want a reasanable understanding of fraction of a second to pull a gun out aim and shoot
syncopate (10:49:52 PM): The exact words I used to describe my spears direction in my post was "around and at his immediate form"
shinzagoya (10:50:03 PM): which by now I have lowered my dumbfoundness on that cause all your goign to say is not human btu I cant under stand is I am moving sideward to an object that is "everywhere" so yeah
shinzagoya (10:50:20 PM): I can let the firing thing slide but yoru "everywhere " term I cant
shinzagoya (10:50:42 PM): Yes you shot my imidiate staionary form
syncopate (10:50:45 PM): I can't really let anything slide with you considering you think ducking your head can protect it from a rain of crystals
shinzagoya (10:50:48 PM): bnnti my current moving one
syncopate (10:51:04 PM): not to mention you think going mach 2 is cool.
shinzagoya (10:51:15 PM): okay so we are adding the rainign acatter affect to yoru everywhere
shinzagoya (10:51:31 PM): I am not goign mock to its basic evasion tactics
shinzagoya (10:51:58 PM): Your still going to get hit
shinzagoya (10:52:23 PM): but the likely chance of it hitting the part where the person aimed is hightly unlikely
syncopate (10:52:28 PM): You'd have to be going mach speed to be able to move out of the way of a bullet traveling faster than sound fired from only fifteen feet away.
shinzagoya (10:52:46 PM): Did I say I was diding the bullet completely no
shinzagoya (10:52:52 PM): even I knwo it is possible
shinzagoya (10:52:56 PM): Oh I get it now
shinzagoya (10:53:02 PM): You think I am dodging
syncopate (10:53:10 PM): They are not hitting your chest as per where it was when you were stationary. The whole point in the explosion of crystals is to still hit you even if you managed to somehow be fast enough to dodge
shinzagoya (10:53:12 PM): Makes a lot more sense
shinzagoya (10:53:36 PM): I was never stationary when you crystals rained down
shinzagoya (10:53:41 PM): so it would have it yes
syncopate (10:53:52 PM): No. My issue isn't you dodging. it's you thinking you are at a distance enough away when an attack is coming at you at more than sound speed to not be able to hit your chest.
shinzagoya (10:54:08 PM): but not in my chest but shoulder side of the rib maybe if my arm was lowered or nto and msotly hit my left leg still out
shinzagoya (10:54:30 PM): But my chest to yoeu radius was never in it
syncopate (10:54:42 PM): I am not playing into this game anymore. Judge gets final say. Can't make a penguin fly.
shinzagoya (10:54:56 PM): I doubt the crystals are coming out at moch 1 or 2
shinzagoya (10:55:25 PM): and able to hit squarely in the chest
syncopate (10:55:32 PM): did I say squarely?
syncopate (10:55:33 PM): no
syncopate (10:55:45 PM): I specifically took into account the fact that you had moved to the side
shinzagoya (10:55:51 PM): yeah you gave specific locations on yoru center chest
syncopate (10:55:52 PM): so I said the crystals hit at an angle
shinzagoya (10:56:05 PM): not yrou side chest
syncopate (10:56:16 PM): The crystals hit your chest at an angle because you had moved to the side. Not square in the chest
shinzagoya (10:56:19 PM): so really lowering my head also lowered my chest
syncopate (10:56:25 PM): and?
shinzagoya (10:56:30 PM): so you would have hit my shoulder
shinzagoya (10:56:33 PM): arm
shinzagoya (10:56:35 PM): and leg
syncopate (10:56:38 PM): the crystals still hit your chest from an angle.
syncopate (10:56:42 PM): not your shoulder.
syncopate (10:56:45 PM): not your arm.
shinzagoya (10:56:47 PM): not my thigh which is front leg or my chest
syncopate (10:56:48 PM): your chest.
syncopate (10:57:01 PM): I am done with the convo.
shinzagoya (10:57:51 PM): Let me also ask you this are you talking to judge or just posting and letting her read it
syncopate (10:58:49 PM): I inform her that the fight requires her attention. Then I post the convo.
syncopate (10:59:02 PM): From there she does everything on her own.
shinzagoya (10:59:33 PM): Okay and also yoeu everywhere youd otn even have enoguh vectors to even cover my range of movement
shinzagoya (10:59:38 PM): your*
shinzagoya (10:59:42 PM): dont*
syncopate (11:00:18 PM): That doesn't make any sense.
syncopate (11:00:37 PM): and we are not going to pretend like it does.
syncopate (11:00:51 PM): Just stop speaking until the judge call is made. I will inform you when it is.
shinzagoya (11:04:30 PM): It doesnt make any sense cause you didnt calculate sideward motion when writing a hit post oh and back slightlty the quicdraw action for a quickdraw to hit everywhere meaning direction with only 12 vectors hmm also very fishy
shinzagoya (11:04:44 PM): but whatever
syncopate (11:05:41 PM): Don't even try to quote me on a rule in a system you hardly know how to follow. A quickdraw attack like mine is not limited to directional restraints, but power restraints. My shards were well within quickdraw standards.
syncopate (11:07:23 PM): And I did calculate the sideward motion. I have pre calculated your next 3, incredibly predictable moves and variables. I took sideward motion into effect when I stated the shards hit you at an angle, insinuating you moved, and thus the crystals couldn't hit dead on, but at an angle. You'd know that if you had even read that far before deciding to go on a nitpicking spree.
shinzagoya (11:08:58 PM): but from the range and side range of my leg to my thigh
shinzagoya (11:12:55 PM): the range your 12 vectors would have to even cover to hit me
syncopate (11:15:49 PM): First off, each of them are two feet in length, as I tol you earlier.
syncopate (11:16:01 PM): That covers all the distance required, and then an extra foot.
shinzagoya (11:16:24 PM): You also made another erro in calculationif they are 2 feet in length
shinzagoya (11:16:32 PM): error *
syncopate (11:16:38 PM): Tell me what it is, then.
shinzagoya (11:16:58 PM): Okay from two feet long and I am 1 foot away
shinzagoya (11:17:09 PM): the spikes wouldnt have the angel to hit
shinzagoya (11:17:16 PM): in the chest but in the upper shoulder
syncopate (11:17:24 PM): Actually, that is wrong.
shinzagoya (11:17:46 PM): remember my arm is in the way of the spikes
syncopate (11:17:49 PM): Because several of them are coming diagnoally, so they'd actually be pressing against the nice little part of your chest I mentioned earlier.
syncopate (11:18:06 PM): Now if you want to get really technical, you're dead.
shinzagoya (11:18:11 PM): Unless they came from my right angle then yeah they would have hit
syncopate (11:18:17 PM): Because that also means your head and neck are skewered.
shinzagoya (11:18:54 PM): Kinda but not entirely
shinzagoya (11:19:02 PM): head lowered
shinzagoya (11:19:08 PM): not down
shinzagoya (11:19:15 PM): and also I am leaning to the right
syncopate (11:21:07 PM): In any case, the potential for the damage capable of being done is now doubled, if we are going to go off your logic. Your neck is still exposed, and my crystales are indiscriminate.
syncopate (11:21:13 PM): check.
syncopate (11:21:30 PM): now all that is left is to see what Alchemists' judge call is so I can recieve the check mate.
shinzagoya (9:05:36 PM): kk
shinzagoya (9:44:21 PM): Just wondering how you hit my chest exactly if I ducked covering my chest
shinzagoya (9:44:30 PM): and giving a smaller target
syncopate (9:47:43 PM): mainly because the spears were released in front of you.
shinzagoya (9:48:00 PM): I was to the side of them when it did go off and moving
shinzagoya (9:48:15 PM): so yes I would have been hit in the left leg but no the chest
shinzagoya (9:48:21 PM): but maybe the arm
syncopate (9:48:27 PM): No, the bullet went off as soon it was a foot in front of you. Not the side.
syncopate (9:48:41 PM): That is where you messed up with the timeline.
shinzagoya (9:48:46 PM): If you read it nwo and I read it much closer now
shinzagoya (9:49:01 PM): I had made the flash bang at the same time I jumped
syncopate (9:50:29 PM): This is all happening before you jumped or did much of anything really, as it clearly says in my post.
shinzagoya (9:50:52 PM): yeah and I made it clear in my post when you were reaching in your pocket is when I made my move
shinzagoya (9:51:34 PM): and the minute you showed the gun meaning pulling it out is when I started to move
shinzagoya (9:51:50 PM): Let me show you real qucikj brb
syncopate (9:52:13 PM): That is not what it said in your post. Your character was doing like 5 things at faster than sound travel with a bullet coming at him from 15 feet away.
syncopate (9:52:44 PM): I think it was safe to assume my crystals got to you quicker than you could jump.
shinzagoya (9:57:32 PM):
In a second, no a fraction of a second, Faustus' hand entered the abyssal black innards of his buttoned
Seeing the man reaching into his jacket pocket for somthing Shin quickly , but slowly lowered his left
hand to the side the orb of light still clearly visible .(first set of action I made to your action )
up suit jacket, and a flash of silver came from within. A revolver, silver and glistening found itself
. As he saw the sliver lining of a barrel being pulled out .
Shin had crushed the orb of light with in his hand before shifting his weight to the right of his body . Before opening his hand letting out a blinding flash of light almost like a flash-bang before side leaping around three to four feet from his original position. (Second course of action when the gun was visible )
aimed right for the angels chest, and with a loud BANG, he pulled the trigger, and let the hammer and gunpowder do its work.
The flash of light would last around one second . As the light went off his head lowered as he lept to avoid the shot hitting his him as he lept . (third course of action already in the air as the shot is fired )
syncopate (9:59:10 PM): Note that faustus' action occured in a fraction of a second. For you to send off a flash of light, duck and move all would have taken at LEAST a second. Not to mention you'd have to be moving at about twice the speed of sound for what you want to achieve to be achieved.
shinzagoya (9:59:35 PM): I ducked in the air
shinzagoya (9:59:39 PM): not before I jumped
shinzagoya (9:59:54 PM): and light travels faster then sound
syncopate (10:00:22 PM): even if this is all happening at once, the action would have had to occur at, at least a second. And your flash isn't what's in question.
syncopate (10:00:40 PM): Your movements are what's in question.
shinzagoya (10:00:42 PM): Then what is the fact i jumped before you fired
syncopate (10:00:53 PM): You couldn't have jumped before I fired.
syncopate (10:01:01 PM): You'd have to be moving at about 3x sound speed
shinzagoya (10:01:04 PM): Yes yes I could If I sawy the gun comingout
shinzagoya (10:01:16 PM): unnless you can take a gun out from yrou jacket
shinzagoya (10:01:24 PM): and aim and fire with in half a second
shinzagoya (10:01:39 PM): which not even the best gunslingers could do
syncopate (10:01:46 PM): He did. I specifically stated that he did.
shinzagoya (10:02:05 PM): Yeah you are taking your gun out at the same time I am already in motion
syncopate (10:02:39 PM): The speed at which this is all occuring still would not put you far enough away to have your chest protected.
syncopate (10:03:03 PM): And my gun motion is happening faster than your jump motion.
shinzagoya (10:03:34 PM): By the time I saw your gun barrled so before you poited I jumped out of the way and made the fash
syncopate (10:03:43 PM): I gave a specific timeframe for the speed at which mine was happening. Just because your character can see something happen, doesn't mean he is just automatically fast enough to escape.
shinzagoya (10:04:05 PM): Okay where in your jacket is your gun
syncopate (10:04:35 PM): It's just there. It is assumed to be close enough inside to allow ease of acces in fraction-of-a-second speed.
syncopate (10:05:42 PM): And you are looking at every aspect other than what is important. Just because you STARTED moving as you saw my character bring out the gun, does not mean you were FAST enough to escape it all. Do you know how fast a fraction of a second is?
shinzagoya (10:05:45 PM): Not really it would have to be holestered then sliding your hand in your suit then wipping hte gun out back out so to the side swing yoru hand forward to a aim position with out firing blindly
syncopate (10:06:00 PM): Did you not even read my sheet?
shinzagoya (10:06:32 PM): Liek I said I couldnt find it and also if you asy your character is a expert gunslinger even the best cant pulll a gun out in fraction of a second
syncopate (10:06:34 PM): My sheet literally explains why none of that stuff you just said would at all deter Faustus. And are you seriously trying to bring a holster into play for a metahuman rp fight? Seriously?
shinzagoya (10:07:11 PM): I am saying fraction of a second to un holester a gun aim it and shot it
shinzagoya (10:07:17 PM): still takes a second
shinzagoya (10:07:26 PM): not a fraction unless you have an aim bot
syncopate (10:07:54 PM): And stop comparing Faustus to human limitations when he is not in any way bound to human understanding or limitations. Your average gunslinger also didn't hop planes three times and kill a self proclaimed God. So I guess Faustus didn't do any of that, either?
shinzagoya (10:08:27 PM): But then you have the thing of pulling the gun out of thin air
syncopate (10:08:36 PM): And yes, a fraction of a second. Based on my description of my attack, and your description of your defense, my attack still supercedes your evasive meneuver.
shinzagoya (10:08:41 PM): in order to o pull it out aim it and shoot it
shinzagoya (10:08:52 PM): three different actions in fraction f a second
shinzagoya (10:09:44 PM): and if your goign to be compared ot a human
syncopate (10:09:48 PM): Like I said, even if you had managed to BEGIN your jump, my bullet is moving at faster-than-sound travel, and explodes before even getting to a point where a bullet could strike you.
shinzagoya (10:10:19 PM): You only aimed where my chest was not where my chest actually was at that point of time
syncopate (10:12:22 PM): So your chest still is fair game. And this is really starting to become nitpicky and vexing me to a point where overlooking major discrepencies and allowing things to slide will be off the table. We already had a judge decide you would take non-lethal damage, so why do you have to be so tedious to argue of where you are hit. As for the bullet being aimed for your chest, and the position of your chest moving. The BULLET was aimed for your chest. The explosion of dozens of magic crystals are indiscriminate, and therte is no way you would have been enough distnce away for your chest to be off the table.
shinzagoya (10:12:58 PM): Ohg and also which brings me how you managed to get from the front door to the vip room faster than light
shinzagoya (10:13:06 PM): and then ush over a table and hode
shinzagoya (10:13:08 PM): hide*
syncopate (10:13:15 PM): Unless you were moving at maybe mach 3, which of course is bs.
syncopate (10:13:21 PM): And he didn't move faster than light.
syncopate (10:13:32 PM): I didn;t even insinuate that he did.
shinzagoya (10:13:36 PM): You kinda did when you shot your bullet
shinzagoya (10:13:49 PM): You by the time yoru post was over was hiding behind a table
shinzagoya (10:13:58 PM): and in the Vip corner
shinzagoya (10:14:07 PM): past a crowd of people on the floor
syncopate (10:14:08 PM): He was hiding behind the table at the start of my post actually.
syncopate (10:14:45 PM): He caused a stir, so instead of your orb hitting him, it him some poor bastard who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
shinzagoya (10:15:06 PM):
would be lost to the angel. In the chaos, he escaped to the upper floor, the VIP(where he felt he should have been from the start).
shinzagoya (10:15:13 PM): Not int he vip floor right
syncopate (10:15:35 PM): What exactly is your complaint here?
syncopate (10:15:40 PM): That your orb didn't hit him?
syncopate (10:16:00 PM): Because I can nip that in a bud right now.
shinzagoya (10:16:01 PM): My complaint is an over look that you hit my chest which was never there for you to hit
shinzagoya (10:16:18 PM): and the chest not being a lethal shot who the hck told you that
shinzagoya (10:16:22 PM): heck*
shinzagoya (10:16:54 PM): I never the orb to hit you in the first place
syncopate (10:17:24 PM): No you are complaining about shit that really has nothing to do with what is going on. My character didn't move faster than light. He shot a bullet at you that was faster than the speed you were moving. I even mentioned your light flash was even felt AS he was escaping to the balcony I believe in my most recent post.
syncopate (10:17:52 PM): He didn't escape your light flash, it just didn't do shit to him.
shinzagoya (10:18:02 PM): No I am also the complaining the fact it took fraction of a second to take out yoru gun which i saw you take it out ai mit and shoot it
syncopate (10:18:23 PM): Yeah? And that all happened in a fraction of a second.
syncopate (10:18:31 PM): I don;t get what is not to understand for you there.
shinzagoya (10:18:43 PM): Fraction of a second used
syncopate (10:18:56 PM): Read my sheet, and your claims will be put to rest.
shinzagoya (10:18:59 PM): Key term less than 3/4 of second
syncopate (10:19:08 PM): mhm.
shinzagoya (10:19:09 PM): to take a gun out and shoot it dead on in the chest
shinzagoya (10:19:21 PM): Hmm from the gun not being in your hand at all
syncopate (10:19:45 PM): Faustus who is elevated beyond human restriction and more than three times the age of any known human currently living?
syncopate (10:19:55 PM): probably not too crazy to assume tat possible, kid.
shinzagoya (10:19:57 PM): Exactly you answered yoru question
shinzagoya (10:20:12 PM): Not human limitations
syncopate (10:20:31 PM): You keep basing his ability to draw, aim, and shoot based on human standards and speed.
syncopate (10:20:41 PM): Those do not apply to Faustus.
shinzagoya (10:20:45 PM): And even if you wernt human it still take at least second to take the gun out aim it and shoot
shinzagoya (10:20:54 PM): itnot 3/4 of a second to do all three
shinzagoya (10:21:41 PM): and just as you arent human nither am I so knocking me down to human dodging standards isnt likely argument for you to make
syncopate (10:21:45 PM): Alright, so let's assume worst case scenario, both are actions are the exact same speed. YOu are moving as the bullet is fired. You still are not moving fast enough for your chest to be far enough away in ANY direction for the WIDE ARCING crystals to not be able to hit it.
shinzagoya (10:22:04 PM): Why do you think I ducked
syncopate (10:22:14 PM): And I am not arguing human dodging standards. I never once quoted a human dodging standard with which to judge you by.
shinzagoya (10:22:19 PM): which would have exposed my arm and leg not my chest or head
syncopate (10:22:26 PM): And ducking doesn't matter when the crystals are going literally everywhere.
shinzagoya (10:22:31 PM): cause I am moving to the side not the front
syncopate (10:23:00 PM): And it went off in FRONT of you. A foot in front to be precise. Your head is actually still very fair game. You are not dodging one linear path object.
syncopate (10:23:16 PM): ou are dodging a firework show of crystals that are going everywhere.
syncopate (10:23:19 PM): *you
shinzagoya (10:23:32 PM): yeah it may have went off in front of me as the bulelt was dodged the after of your lances would have only hit my arm and leg
shinzagoya (10:23:51 PM): I am doding the front direction of the bullet so I am not standing infront of it
shinzagoya (10:24:01 PM): when it goes forward
shinzagoya (10:24:29 PM): giving it were a normal bulelt it would have passed by thoguh giving it as it has a after affect it woudl cuase minimal damage
syncopate (10:24:56 PM): My point is with the speed everything is happening at, there is no way you are more than a few inches to the left or right of the location of the origin explosion, which means your chest is still fair game. As well as your head. I decided I WOULDN'T hit your head so that I could enjoy this fight. So I went for your chest.
shinzagoya (10:25:31 PM): I am at least a foot from the epi center
syncopate (10:25:35 PM): Your character is not moving at double sound speed to have been able to be the required distance away from the origin of the explosion for your chest to be off limits.
shinzagoya (10:25:48 PM): Yeah which is a foot
shinzagoya (10:26:10 PM): cause i am moving horizontially it was never impacted infront
syncopate (10:26:20 PM): even if you are a foot to the left of the bullet, that means you are a foot away and to any one of two directions. A crystal moving diagnoally would still hit your chest
syncopate (10:26:35 PM): Diagnoally from the point of release
shinzagoya (10:26:45 PM): I moved directly sideward
syncopate (10:26:51 PM): You keep thinking all the crystals are headed in ONE direction.
syncopate (10:26:56 PM): They are going everywhere.
shinzagoya (10:27:00 PM): so the lances going sideward would hit
syncopate (10:27:24 PM): They are not moving just front, back, left, right. Everywhere man. What don't you get?
shinzagoya (10:27:30 PM): not diagonally lanes not frontal lances only the side lances
shinzagoya (10:27:46 PM): Explodes lieka firework
syncopate (10:27:55 PM): yeah, so they are going out in every direction.
syncopate (10:28:05 PM): You are a foot away, and a foot to one of two sides
syncopate (10:28:18 PM): That means at least a few of the lances are still capable of hitting your chest
shinzagoya (10:28:42 PM): they may have gone every where but they still scater
shinzagoya (10:29:05 PM): unless it is a pulse in which case every square inch is covered
syncopate (10:29:14 PM): key word. scatter.
shinzagoya (10:29:18 PM): but these are individual lances spreading out
syncopate (10:29:36 PM): out of a presumed 12 lances, only two hit your chest. You evaded a damn good number of them.
shinzagoya (10:29:37 PM): so a foot os scatter and me a foot from it and moving to the side
shinzagoya (10:29:45 PM): it would only hit my shoulder and down
shinzagoya (10:29:49 PM): not my chest
shinzagoya (10:30:17 PM): but for leatalality liek you were aiming for
shinzagoya (10:30:32 PM): the chest expecially the upper chest is for sure kill
syncopate (10:30:52 PM): No. Just no. an inch of penetration would not kill you if it hit your chest just about anywhere.
syncopate (10:31:06 PM): do you know how much shit is in your chest it's have to dig through to kill you?
syncopate (10:31:23 PM): You have a ribcage for one, lungs which are deeper in, and your heart is deeper still.
shinzagoya (10:31:34 PM): Yeah it is 1 ich of skin and then half an inch of ribs
shinzagoya (10:31:38 PM): to get to you
syncopate (10:32:07 PM): an inch of penetration still isn't anything considered lethal.
syncopate (10:32:26 PM): you might have a broken rib or two. But that is still far from lethal.
shinzagoya (10:32:47 PM): But what pisses me off the most is the 3/4 of a second to take the gun out aim and shoot
shinzagoya (10:32:56 PM): which is impossible even if you were super human
syncopate (10:33:00 PM): What pisses me off is your character moving at Mach 2
shinzagoya (10:33:09 PM): I am not moving at mock 2
syncopate (10:33:14 PM): *mach
shinzagoya (10:33:17 PM): I am side steping the bullet
syncopate (10:33:31 PM): A bullet moving faster than sound from 15 feet.
syncopate (10:33:41 PM): you;d HAVE to be moving at around mach 2 to even pull that off.
shinzagoya (10:34:21 PM): From the 15 foot mark my chest would be as wide to you as less then an ich
syncopate (10:34:24 PM): much less move fast enough to get away from a crystal hitting your chest. That and your idea of positioning is super off.
shinzagoya (10:34:25 PM): inch *
syncopate (10:34:36 PM): Your chest... is a huge part of your body.
shinzagoya (10:34:49 PM): yeah not at fifteen feet away
syncopate (10:34:58 PM): and 15 feet for someone with enhanced sight, as per the desription of the Iris of the World, is really nothing.
syncopate (10:35:08 PM): Nothing at all.
shinzagoya (10:35:10 PM): still the biggest but nto that big unless you have magnified vision
syncopate (10:35:42 PM): Are you kidding me? A run of the mill police officer can hit you in the chest from like 20 feet.
shinzagoya (10:36:03 PM): yeah but they have to aim which takes a cupple of seconds
syncopate (10:36:04 PM): Gangsters do driveby's and hit idiots in the chest multiple times from across the damn street.
shinzagoya (10:36:18 PM): not fraction of a second to pull the gun out aim and shoot
shinzagoya (10:36:33 PM): ona moving target
syncopate (10:37:00 PM): Once again. I will state you are being really, really nitpicky because you don't want to take the damage levied against you. I am copy/pasting AGAIN, so that Alchemist can make her call.
shinzagoya (10:37:33 PM): Sure go ahead
shinzagoya (10:40:31 PM): Oh and she messed up the whole analyisis of the fight saying you didnt fire a bullet
shinzagoya (10:40:45 PM): and I ducked before jumping
shinzagoya (10:41:08 PM): " Considering the fact it was not a bullet being fired at Shin "
syncopate (10:41:10 PM): She did actually say I fired a bullet. Her word specifically used was a capsule.
shinzagoya (10:41:37 PM): Considering the fact it was not a bullet being fired at Shin \
syncopate (10:41:40 PM): There you go being nitpicky again. Alchemist has been in the judging game probably before you even stepped in a ring.
syncopate (10:42:07 PM): Faustus fired a capsule that released twelve or so vectors made of magic at and around his opponent.
syncopate (10:42:14 PM): That was another quote.
syncopate (10:42:24 PM): wanna keep your game of broken logic going?
shinzagoya (10:42:29 PM): Yeah vectors which I recall it being bullet fired
syncopate (10:42:37 PM): Vectors refers to the crystals
shinzagoya (10:42:40 PM): bti twelve different vectors
syncopate (10:42:48 PM): the capsule refers to the bullet.
shinzagoya (10:42:51 PM): yeah you said everywhere
shinzagoya (10:42:56 PM): now she gave a number
syncopate (10:43:06 PM): Because in my post I said about a dozen
shinzagoya (10:43:11 PM): so doding twelev vectors at a foot of range
syncopate (10:43:11 PM): a dozen is 12
shinzagoya (10:43:25 PM): Yea h but a dozen doesnt hit everywhere
syncopate (10:43:35 PM): They are capable of going in every direction
shinzagoya (10:43:50 PM): and the scatter affect would not have made 2 of those hit my chest
syncopate (10:43:54 PM): front back left right diagnoal blah blah
syncopate (10:44:01 PM): 2 of 12? seriously dude, just stop.
shinzagoya (10:44:12 PM): TO cover enervy where
shinzagoya (10:44:17 PM): every*
shinzagoya (10:44:27 PM): Hmm fishy if they can course correct
syncopate (10:44:41 PM): Not fishy at all if you would read it within the context of my post.
shinzagoya (10:44:50 PM): Yeah I am rteading it context
syncopate (10:44:57 PM): You are a terrible nitpicker, and your understanding of positioning is absolutely abysmal.
shinzagoya (10:45:03 PM): everywhere so no matter if I had moved to the other side say the left
syncopate (10:45:20 PM): you still woulda' got hit by about 2
shinzagoya (10:45:26 PM): the half a dozen or even more of them would still hafl to cover the left side forward up and right
shinzagoya (10:46:07 PM): oh and not to mention diagonal up and down to the left and right
syncopate (10:46:29 PM): Did I say how many went which directions? 1 coulda went straight, and 4 coulda' went the other four normal directions, while all the rest went diagonal. It was left to me to decide, given it was my attack.
shinzagoya (10:46:40 PM): But you said every where
syncopate (10:46:47 PM): Yes. everywhere.
shinzagoya (10:46:51 PM): so unless they auto corrected to only head my way
shinzagoya (10:46:54 PM): if I jumped
shinzagoya (10:47:03 PM): SO lets count everywhere shall we
syncopate (10:47:16 PM): Lol two just so happened to be going in your direction and hit your chest
syncopate (10:47:30 PM): you are trying to break something down to a science where there is nothing to break down.
shinzagoya (10:47:55 PM): No I am breaking down your def of everywhere
syncopate (10:48:06 PM): The judge said you recieve damage calculation, I dished out my damage as I saw fit. Instead of just dealing with it and pressing on, you wanted to make a federal case over a case that was already closed.
syncopate (10:48:14 PM): You can't break down a definition I never gave.
shinzagoya (10:48:25 PM): Its called appell lol xDD
syncopate (10:48:29 PM): I was purposefully ambiguous in my post because people like you do things like this.
shinzagoya (10:49:02 PM): No people liek me want a reasanable understanding of fraction of a second to pull a gun out aim and shoot
syncopate (10:49:52 PM): The exact words I used to describe my spears direction in my post was "around and at his immediate form"
shinzagoya (10:50:03 PM): which by now I have lowered my dumbfoundness on that cause all your goign to say is not human btu I cant under stand is I am moving sideward to an object that is "everywhere" so yeah
shinzagoya (10:50:20 PM): I can let the firing thing slide but yoru "everywhere " term I cant
shinzagoya (10:50:42 PM): Yes you shot my imidiate staionary form
syncopate (10:50:45 PM): I can't really let anything slide with you considering you think ducking your head can protect it from a rain of crystals
shinzagoya (10:50:48 PM): bnnti my current moving one
syncopate (10:51:04 PM): not to mention you think going mach 2 is cool.
shinzagoya (10:51:15 PM): okay so we are adding the rainign acatter affect to yoru everywhere
shinzagoya (10:51:31 PM): I am not goign mock to its basic evasion tactics
shinzagoya (10:51:58 PM): Your still going to get hit
shinzagoya (10:52:23 PM): but the likely chance of it hitting the part where the person aimed is hightly unlikely
syncopate (10:52:28 PM): You'd have to be going mach speed to be able to move out of the way of a bullet traveling faster than sound fired from only fifteen feet away.
shinzagoya (10:52:46 PM): Did I say I was diding the bullet completely no
shinzagoya (10:52:52 PM): even I knwo it is possible
shinzagoya (10:52:56 PM): Oh I get it now
shinzagoya (10:53:02 PM): You think I am dodging
syncopate (10:53:10 PM): They are not hitting your chest as per where it was when you were stationary. The whole point in the explosion of crystals is to still hit you even if you managed to somehow be fast enough to dodge
shinzagoya (10:53:12 PM): Makes a lot more sense
shinzagoya (10:53:36 PM): I was never stationary when you crystals rained down
shinzagoya (10:53:41 PM): so it would have it yes
syncopate (10:53:52 PM): No. My issue isn't you dodging. it's you thinking you are at a distance enough away when an attack is coming at you at more than sound speed to not be able to hit your chest.
shinzagoya (10:54:08 PM): but not in my chest but shoulder side of the rib maybe if my arm was lowered or nto and msotly hit my left leg still out
shinzagoya (10:54:30 PM): But my chest to yoeu radius was never in it
syncopate (10:54:42 PM): I am not playing into this game anymore. Judge gets final say. Can't make a penguin fly.
shinzagoya (10:54:56 PM): I doubt the crystals are coming out at moch 1 or 2
shinzagoya (10:55:25 PM): and able to hit squarely in the chest
syncopate (10:55:32 PM): did I say squarely?
syncopate (10:55:33 PM): no
syncopate (10:55:45 PM): I specifically took into account the fact that you had moved to the side
shinzagoya (10:55:51 PM): yeah you gave specific locations on yoru center chest
syncopate (10:55:52 PM): so I said the crystals hit at an angle
shinzagoya (10:56:05 PM): not yrou side chest
syncopate (10:56:16 PM): The crystals hit your chest at an angle because you had moved to the side. Not square in the chest
shinzagoya (10:56:19 PM): so really lowering my head also lowered my chest
syncopate (10:56:25 PM): and?
shinzagoya (10:56:30 PM): so you would have hit my shoulder
shinzagoya (10:56:33 PM): arm
shinzagoya (10:56:35 PM): and leg
syncopate (10:56:38 PM): the crystals still hit your chest from an angle.
syncopate (10:56:42 PM): not your shoulder.
syncopate (10:56:45 PM): not your arm.
shinzagoya (10:56:47 PM): not my thigh which is front leg or my chest
syncopate (10:56:48 PM): your chest.
syncopate (10:57:01 PM): I am done with the convo.
shinzagoya (10:57:51 PM): Let me also ask you this are you talking to judge or just posting and letting her read it
syncopate (10:58:49 PM): I inform her that the fight requires her attention. Then I post the convo.
syncopate (10:59:02 PM): From there she does everything on her own.
shinzagoya (10:59:33 PM): Okay and also yoeu everywhere youd otn even have enoguh vectors to even cover my range of movement
shinzagoya (10:59:38 PM): your*
shinzagoya (10:59:42 PM): dont*
syncopate (11:00:18 PM): That doesn't make any sense.
syncopate (11:00:37 PM): and we are not going to pretend like it does.
syncopate (11:00:51 PM): Just stop speaking until the judge call is made. I will inform you when it is.
shinzagoya (11:04:30 PM): It doesnt make any sense cause you didnt calculate sideward motion when writing a hit post oh and back slightlty the quicdraw action for a quickdraw to hit everywhere meaning direction with only 12 vectors hmm also very fishy
shinzagoya (11:04:44 PM): but whatever
syncopate (11:05:41 PM): Don't even try to quote me on a rule in a system you hardly know how to follow. A quickdraw attack like mine is not limited to directional restraints, but power restraints. My shards were well within quickdraw standards.
syncopate (11:07:23 PM): And I did calculate the sideward motion. I have pre calculated your next 3, incredibly predictable moves and variables. I took sideward motion into effect when I stated the shards hit you at an angle, insinuating you moved, and thus the crystals couldn't hit dead on, but at an angle. You'd know that if you had even read that far before deciding to go on a nitpicking spree.
shinzagoya (11:08:58 PM): but from the range and side range of my leg to my thigh
shinzagoya (11:12:55 PM): the range your 12 vectors would have to even cover to hit me
syncopate (11:15:49 PM): First off, each of them are two feet in length, as I tol you earlier.
syncopate (11:16:01 PM): That covers all the distance required, and then an extra foot.
shinzagoya (11:16:24 PM): You also made another erro in calculationif they are 2 feet in length
shinzagoya (11:16:32 PM): error *
syncopate (11:16:38 PM): Tell me what it is, then.
shinzagoya (11:16:58 PM): Okay from two feet long and I am 1 foot away
shinzagoya (11:17:09 PM): the spikes wouldnt have the angel to hit
shinzagoya (11:17:16 PM): in the chest but in the upper shoulder
syncopate (11:17:24 PM): Actually, that is wrong.
shinzagoya (11:17:46 PM): remember my arm is in the way of the spikes
syncopate (11:17:49 PM): Because several of them are coming diagnoally, so they'd actually be pressing against the nice little part of your chest I mentioned earlier.
syncopate (11:18:06 PM): Now if you want to get really technical, you're dead.
shinzagoya (11:18:11 PM): Unless they came from my right angle then yeah they would have hit
syncopate (11:18:17 PM): Because that also means your head and neck are skewered.
shinzagoya (11:18:54 PM): Kinda but not entirely
shinzagoya (11:19:02 PM): head lowered
shinzagoya (11:19:08 PM): not down
shinzagoya (11:19:15 PM): and also I am leaning to the right
syncopate (11:21:07 PM): In any case, the potential for the damage capable of being done is now doubled, if we are going to go off your logic. Your neck is still exposed, and my crystales are indiscriminate.
syncopate (11:21:13 PM): check.
syncopate (11:21:30 PM): now all that is left is to see what Alchemists' judge call is so I can recieve the check mate.